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senator jeff sessions. >> sessions should
have never recused himself and if he want -- if he was going to recused himself, he shouldive rr told me and i would have picked somebody else. so jeff sessions takes the job. gets into the job. recuss himself. i then have -- which frankly i think is very unfair to the president. how do you recuse yourself? if he had recused himself before the job, i would have said thank you jeff. i'm not going to take you. >> and he accuses him of using the infamous dossier against him. and delving too far into his family's finances. this comes as we're learning
dates are set next week for his son don jr., son in law jared kushner and paul manafort to testify under oath in the russia investigation. plus senator john mccain, patriot, presidential candidate, war hero facing another battle diagnosed with brain cancer. an out pouring of support for the senator. we have much more on that throughout this hour. so let's get right to the new york times. a cnn political analyst. and cnn contributor, john dean, the former nixon white house counsel. where do we start? let's start with we have more audio with the president's interview with the new york times. here it is. >> she's sitting next to putin and somebody else and that's what it is. and for dessert i wanted to say
hello to milania and while i was there said hello to putin. really pleasantries more than anything else. was not a long conversation. but it was -- could be 15 minutes. we actually it was very interesting. we talked about adoption. russian adoption. yeah. i always found that interesting because he ended that years ago. and i actually talked about russian adoption with him, which is interesting because that was part of the conversation don had had that i think as i said most other people when they call up and say we have information on your opponent, i think most politicians -- they said who are you taking a meeting with? >> okay. so did you hear what he said? if you think about the timing of that because he mentioned the meeting with don and adoption
and they're not actually talking about adoption. you're talking about sanctions and cnn and others are reporting the meeting was actually an hour. >> times reporting the same thing. there's so many strampg things going on. one of the most striking parts is how much don jr. is still at the front of his mind. the fact he went to adoption. clearly they talked about many things in this hour to 15 minutes to an hour but it's don jr. that he brings up. i mean he's still trying to frame that or spin that around like this is something vladimir putin cares bouts so much. it's an extraordinary admission that he doesn't have a problem with saying i wasn't meeting with angela merkel, i wasn't meeting with teresa may. i was have aing another side bar with vladimir putin that no americans were there to give a readout of or analysis.
>> remember the reporting that he crafted don jr.'s first statement to talk about adoption and then now he's talking bout adoption but they denied it. listen, i think again this interview is jaw dropping and all he has to do is thread the needle. and you know what i'm talking about. >> yeah, i mean a couple of things. correct me if i'm wrong but i believe the involvement in the president drafting the initial statement was on his way back from europe. and then as the story unravelled, even the president and his team trying to sort of craft their narrative about what took place between don jr. and the various russians that were in this meeting, they weren't able to stay ahead of it. but if i can piggy back. forget for a minute all the swirl around the president and potential ties to russia or whatever his ties to russia are.
just look at what we absolutely know. that he doted on vladimir putin with a two-hour reported meeting a one-hour meeting only disclosed later. our staunchest allies -- he did not pay the it same level of attention to them. aalis that would be crucial if any crisis acrew down the road. it's really shocking. >> what do you make of this, don? >> i make of it that he certainly hasn't got his new lawyer yet. who's going to try to vet these sort of things and get controless on what they were saying about all the legal issues swirling round his presidency. >> can i ask you something. you were the special counsel of george nixon. what would you be thinking or
advising or strat jz about at this moment had you been doing what you do? >> somebody would have tried to get the president to not talk about things that were directly involved in investigation or the investigators who were involved in it. belittling comey, for example. in one of the excerpts he calls comey dumb. that's just belittling a potential witness against him. that isn't smart. as i say i think ty cobb or somebody is going to bet him. those will be under control in the future. >> the theory is sitting in the oval office and there's this investigation that robert mueller is undertaking and not sure whether president trump is under investigation or to what extent it is and yet he's still talking about based on lack of
faith in jeff sessions and how he knew that jeff sessions wasn't going to take the right step under the constitution to recuse himself from an investigation. and it really sort of raised questions about judgment here. i know you want to point to people who are yes men whether or not the constitution weighs in on it. >> do we have the part where we talks about don jr.'s email? audio sn about the meeting? let's listen to that. >> i didn't look at it very closely to be honest with you. i just heard there was an email requesting a mail that they had information on hillary clinton and i said i mean that's standard political stuff. >> did you know at the time they had the email? >> no. it must have been a very
unimportant meeting because i never heard about it. sounded like a very unimportant meeting. >> new jersey and california and the primaries and you give a speech about hillary clinton's corrupt dealings and that comes just three hours after -- >> okay. so it was so unimportant that there was a translator and his son in law was in there, his top advisor, also his campaign manager, ceo of his campaign. that was an unimportant meeting? >> the pretext was that the russians had information that could hurt hillary clinton. we've got goods if we can come and bring you to hurt your opponent. this is when donald trump is ramping up before the the republican convention, organizing the general election campaign. he doesn't have much of a staff
so much so that one of his sons and his son in law are organizing a meeting with the campaign chairman. this is a very big meeting and clearly don jr. took it seriously. looking at the email exchange don jr. had, he was dieing to get this guy in. >> he accused robert mural eert asked if it would cross a red line if it expanded to look at his family's feinances beyond any relationships to russia. mr. trump said yes. look, this is about russia. everyone always says you follow the money. that phrase became famous during the watergate investigation. what's your read on this? >> he's responding to a leading
question but he took it farther than the question needed to go. and he's saying there is a red line. it is mine and outside the area of russia he sort of acknowledged that was a legitimate area. the subtext which runs through this entire interview is that it's everybody else's fault and not his. that he shouldn't be subject and may not be subject to a russian investigation. he tries to fog that up again. but he doesn't want it clearly to go outside the boundaries of where he thinks this special counsel has authority that he's not challenging at this point. >> and don, politically, right, there was a point in time when it might have been more plauzible for the president to argue nothing to see here. why is the media looking into the president's finances? but with each billow in this building cloud of smoke around
the president and his team and russia, it's harder and harder politically to make a credible case that looking into the president's finances, whatever is found is beyond the pale or somehow an over reach by special prosecutor mueller. it's something based on what we know that should be looked into even if he doesn't find it. >> he took on comey saying he only brought it up to keep his job as leverage. this is how james comey testified about that moment in his testimony before the senate intelligence committee. >> i didn't use the term counterintelligence. i was speaking to him and briefing him about some salacious and unverified material. it was in the context of that that he had a strong and defensive reaction about that not being true and my reading of it was it was important for me
to assure him we weren't personally investigating him. so the context was narrower focussed on what i was talking to him about. first all of it was true and i was very much about being in a j. edger hoover type situation. i didn't want him to think i was briefing him on this to hang it over him. i was briefing him on it because we were told by the media it was about to launch and he needed to know this was being said and i was very keen to leave him with the impression the bureau isn't doing anything to him. >> just to be clear, here's what the president said in the interview u he said he knew about tootoo make clear he had something to hold over the president. he shared it to think he had it out there. i would think he had it out there he said as leverage?
yes, in retrospect. so is this -- he said the mueller investigation is a set up as well? >> yeah. i think that's exactly how he's framing it to his supporters and what he's trying to push out. >> this is what is so interesting. this is exactly how president trump thinks? during the campaign he saw staff and they've never liked them bringing him bad news. they didn't like poll numbers that conflicted with his reality of the situation. now you have him as president of the united states and in some ways he still sees the fbi director as staff. he expects loyalty above all things. so for the fbi director to come in to the oval and say i want to talk to you about this document, this is something president trump does not respond well to and he's looking for motives in
his own mind to try to make sense of this that people are out to get him or put leverage on him and you can see him in comey's testimony. he was sort of a little baffled by what was setting trump off he was so agrieve by comey coming in and saying i just want to tell you about this information that's out there. >> one thing that was small but important in the interview. and hats off for getting the interview with the president. he said i don't remember talking to him, comey about any of this stuff, referring to an investigation. but on may 11th, on the interview on tv with lester holt he said i actually asked him if i was under investigation. so how could he have asked comey if he were under investigation but not remember talking to him about any of this stuff?
>> he misremembered. he misremembered. go ahead, john. >> another subpart of this investigation is that comey i have read that was a collective decision by the bureau and as well as talking to the kwhiwhit house about whether to give this information to trump or not. >> so he sought the advice of different people. >> exactly. >> can i ask you real quick about sessions and i do have to go. for him saying that sessions if he had known he was going to recuse himself and then saying he gave really bad answers to simple questions. what do you think sessions should do or will do? >> that's a good question because he's in essence saying i have no confidence in my attorney general. i haven't ever since he recused
himself. so can the attorney general operate in that atmosphere? i think i would walk over to the white house and say do you want me to leave? and have it out and you understand the implications of my leaving at this time. i think that would clear the air and probably what he needs to do. >> maybe what he wanted to do. thank you, gentleman. issue as warning to the spells counsel and washington holds its breath. whut will all this mean to the russia investigation? you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don't get too comfortable. we're talking to you, cost inefficiencies and data without insights. and fragmented care- stop getting in the way of patient recovery and pay attention. every single one of you is on our list. for those who won't rest until the world is healthier, neither will we.
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our breaking news tonight, president trump venting in the new york times, lashing out at attorney general, jeff sessions, robert mueller and others. here contributor to the washington post and cnn political commentator, a former special assistant to president george w. bush. good evening to you. i want to get your reaction to president trump warning special counsel mueller nautto investigate his family finances as part of the russia probe and put the quote up here and let our viewers see it but basically telling him not to go too far afield. why does he feel he can tell the special counsel the puramteres of his investigation? >> because donald trump looks at anyone employed by the federal government as his personal
staff, basically. and so as a result, he thinks there is no wall between him and special prosecutor or mueller. so it's not surprising he thinks he can lay out what the contours are. one way is to believe trump does believe he's innocent and therefore it's outrageous mueller would investigate anything baurntd russia or that donald trump has really got something serious to hide and is saying don't go to that thing i don't want you to know about. >> thinteresting. they have scrutinized some of donald trump jr.'s business dealings even before the latest meeting. so doyou think the president is reacting to how this russia probe is quickly growing now? >> absolutely. we talk about this before and for the last several months, these probes start out looking at one thing and that becomes
somehow within the purview of these investigators. that can happen with a special counsel and congressional committee. they look at one thing and find something else. it happened in some of the clinton investigations in the '90s. it happened to scooter libby. he was investigated on an intelligence leak issue. but he got convicted on obstruction. but these investigations grow and they're like spider webs and they go out and i imagine it's frustrating for people in the middle of it. >> i can hear people at home saying it's good for it good is good for the gander. wouldn't you be advising the president and people around him to zip it up? not to do interviews like that? >> sure and i wouldn't be giving the president legal advice. but yes, this interview seemed ilarer timed to me, specifically when you consider you got donald trump jr. and paul manafort and
others testifying in front of congress in just a few days and so i imagine some of the president's statements could come up in the context of those investigations as well. it seem as little strange to have it out there like that tonight but he has extreme confidence in his ability to communicate how he feels about what's going on in the world and if he wakes up and decides i got something to say, he's going to say it no matter what his advice is. >> i'd actually like to hear what you're thinking. >> don, i'm just too overwhelmed by the outrages success of made in america week by the trump administration. i think they've been so successful at that that i hadn't paid any attention to this interview. i think this is part in parcel of trump's mo as president of the united states which is he constantly steps on whatever
message his white house is actually trying to get out there. this week was supposed to be made in america week and with the failure of health care was supposed to be about potentially reviving health care and smoi donald trump decides i'm going to speak for 90 minutes about russia as if somehow that's not going it attract someone's attention and as we said before and in the program in the past hour, part of the problem is maybe a couple of months ago they had a case to make they were being paranoid about this. but there's evidence there was some degree of contact between the trump campaign and the russians. so anytime he brings this up as an issue it's going to cause more people to pay attention to it. >> let me ask you about this. paul manafort all scheduled to testify next week in the russia probe. what do you think we're going to learn about the june 2016 meeting they all the with this russia lawyer?
>> whatever we learn we're going to learn it in full. that's been one of the issues so far is they've been answering questions on a daily basis about it. they have to answer more questions. this is what we've been talking about for several days. this is probably the best opportunity to tell their full side of the story under oath in public all the time not piece mealed out. i think this is the right way to conclude for them as a pr issue instead of discussing it day to day, get it all out there, answer every single question. i think i might open up with i will sit here as long as you want and not leave until the last question is answered. that would be a great sign of confidence you didn't do anything wrong. >> president trump warning special counsel not to cross a red line in investigating the trump family as investigators may be following the money.
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turning to discuss the deputy assistant commerce secretary for europe, middle east and africa during the obama administration. gentleman, i'm glad to have you on. thank you so much. i want to ask you, matthew about president trump's interview with this new york times interview and he said it would be a violation if special counsel mueller look under to his family finances saying it would cross a red line if the investigation went beyond russia. what's your reaction to that? >> of course mueller has the discretion to do that. we want them to follow the facts and the money if that's where it leads them and it's important to note that given the record will show according to don jr. in 2008 there's a disproportionate amount of russian money in the trump portfolio. it's hard to see how if he went
into the finances generally he wouldn't discover russian assets and so it's increasingly clear that the history of doing business with russians by working with them to sell them parts could very much come into play during the mueller investigation. and then for him to make that kind of stretch, it's ironic because the wall street journal did the president a great service monday night. >> about transparency. he neesds to be transparent and in the first paragraph they say he was doing exactly what he criticized the clintons of doing. >> and they made a call for him to be pre-emptively disclosing all the information he could. that it's not too late to get
out in front of this investigation and that would logically include him, for example, releasing his tax returns at this point. and they got trump's response tonight, which was unfortunate. he basically said to the new york times in answer to a question from the new york times that i'm drawing a red line here. >> i want to bring michael in. because we have this warning from the president though he would not say what he would do about it. but this comes as we're getting more details about the don jr. meeting, other russia connections and you said early on investigators will follow the money. >> that's right. i think there's no question but that we are in the midst of a money laundering investigation. with respect to manafort and the purchases of properties in new york for cash in violation of perhaps the geographic targeting order rules, articles in the new
york times today about indebtedness and limited liability corporations to make them less transparent to investigators, perhaps violation to the foreign taxability act. we know don jr. has mentioned in 2008 that they are russianed up with their money. they don't need u.s. banks except the one they used is deutschebank which is caught in a money laundering inquiry of its own. there's no question but we crossed the line today. when he realizes that he's gone beyond that, what's he going to do? and the only thing he can do is direct rosenstein to fire mueller. i think rosenstein will quit before he does that and i think the associate attorney general will quit before he does that and then they have to change the regulations so he will fire it.
this is a gigantic meshe's in and i just -- i don't think he realizes the thickness of the soup he's in. maybe when ty cobb gets there, he'll be able to set him straight but right now he's wandering in the desert. >> these were michael's words. he said he thinks we're in the middle of a money laundering investigation. that's what you said. >> that's what i said. >> and the new york times reporting paul manafort was in debt by as much as $27 million to prorussias before he joined trump's campaign. money that appears to have been owed by shell companies connected in ukrain in the tax haven of cyprus. >> this makes mr. manafort
extremely vulnerable, doesn't it? to the types of pressure we see russia was prepared to put on the trump campaign and the june 9, 2016 meeting, now helps us connect dots on the question of follow the money in a way that was not plausible before because of who was in the room. who represents the aguilar family, they were in business with the trump family during the ms. universe pageant and they've been trying to develop a hotel with the trump family. so the fact thattal he was there corroborates that the russians were approaching the trump organization with an offer of official information about
hillary clinton and that they were prepared to perhaps trade that information in exchange to an end of sanctions and in exchange for the ability to work with the trump administration on a host of economic issues. how does that connect to manafort? manafort's in the room. manafort was in a discussion in a room where he could have seen the possibility that if he was in debt at that time and it's questionable because he's claiming that any debt he had, he had eradicated by the end of 2015. so let's assume he was still in debt to the ukrain parliamentari parliamentarian. then he would have been very interested in knowing what was on the table in that room and you asked your earlier guests this evening as to what we'll find out this week from the witnesses that will appear on the hill.
i'm not sure we'll find out exactly what happened in that meeting. >> dwi'm running out of time. >> what we will find out next week in those hearings is whether any of these people can tell a coherent truthful story and that's going to be their biggest point of jeopardy moving forward. even the president said he didn't tell comey anything about the flynn firing -- >> that's not what he said. he said he doesn't recall having that conversation. >> i understand that but comey has said he flat out said that. and someone's going to be telling the truth and someone's not going to be telling the truth. >> as turmoil spreads across the count country, senator stands up in defense of opponent running against him.
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a muslim american woman running in arizona, barraged with hate filled comments on facebook because of her religion but none of that could stop diedra. >> the journey i have decided to take on today is not just for people who look and sound like me but for all arizona. >> the candidate defended by someone you might not expect, her opponent. how are you? >> i'm doing excellent. how are you? >> i'm great. and i'm so happy you came on.
you write in part this. "founding fathers decreed this nation would separate church and state and in doing so protect both institutions. government would be free from religious overreach and religion would be free from government interference." can you explain the attacks you've received since posting that. >> it started on a video similar to the one that you showed and not sure why it suddenly ramped up but two days ago it really started becoming one comment a minute. >> and before we move on and talk about it, i thought it was extraordinary and i shouldn't say extraordinary because it's the right thing to do. the man whose job you're seeking, he tweeted hang in there, sorry you have to put up with this. lots of wonderful people across arizona. you'll find them. what's your reaction?
>> i appreciate any elected leader for calling out this kind of rhetoric and these attacks on our fellow americans. i appreciate he did that. and we need to see more of that from our elected leaders. a lot of our elected leaders make the same comments. the rest of our elected leaders are not calling them out and the rest of society isn't making a decision. is this us or is it not us? >> the alt-right has shown up at some of the campaign events. did you expect it? >> i came in this with full -- i knew this was exactly what i was going to pull out of the woodwork and i want to because we need have a conversation about whether or not those people represent america. i believe the majority of americans don't either. when they decided to come to our event, we decided to show them
they're not going to intimidate them. that's how we deal with bullies. that's how we show them they're not going to make us put their head down. >> and i want to speak to reports about challenging in the primary. >> i think the administration needs to worry about what's going on with the administration and let arizona decide who their next senator's going to be. >> what would you say to people who may be afraid of facing the type of abuse online and in person because it could translate into a real-life incident? >> muslims may be the flavor of the day but we're not the only flavor on the menu. every community that can be marginalized or chose as an other gets the same attacks. if you're going to run for a
political office, you betver a thick skin. you better be willing to deal with bullies. they're in the grocery store and it's time we as americans stood up and said that's not us. >> thank you. best of luck to you and again i'm sorry this hammond to you. >> thank you. >> opinion contributor who posted a commentary about this incident and andre bower. good evening, gentleman. it's very well spoken. very smart lady there. i know you feel strongly about this. what's your reaction? >> i thought she was great and i must say i have never praised a republican before ever on cnn. so, wake up wolf blitzer. this is big. jeff did what everyone should do. >> it's really shouldn't be
extraordinary. >> you know what jeff blake spoke out against muslim bigotry. blake stands up against bigotry. from islam hates us, to a thousand cheerd in new jersey. to wanting a ban. it was such a great thing and democrats, republicans, we should applaud each other. when we do something objectively good and bad. >> recent study by the counsel and islamic relationship shows hate crime has increased 91% in the first six months of this year compared to the same time period last year. what does that tell you? >> again. i look for the shining part of this. this is what america is about respect. al he and i are great friends.
we dukd it out. but at the ownend of the day we still respected each other. i admire him for standing up for what could be his opponent and i tried to find the good and not everybody's bad. you got to get in thick skin when you're in politics. people are beating me up left and right. so it's not always about religion. they always are going to find something negative to come at you with and we still have good folks like deedra trying to run you out of office. >> putting up pictures of -- >> they don't say that but they say things that are hate filled, they say things about killing me or i don't belong here. >> let's be real. when you look autothe first six months of this year compared to
last year, hate crime against muslims has inkreeszed by 91%. what do you say to the people fuelling this haft? >> the good thing is we have a process whereby the peep bhool do these hate crimes are prosecuted and i hope law enforcement will go forward with prosecuting folks committing these crimes. >> first of all there's been i think four or five mosques burned down since january. and you even had it prior to this. a man was just sentenced last month for 19 years in prison for a plot to kill muslims. but thanks to trump, we've seen a speak in people bold bdened. >> this directly connects.
>> i think when the gop nominee and the president of united states who said things literally islam hates it. and said thousands of muslims cheered on 9/11. what message does that send to his followers? and every president has had a ramadan event at the white house. trump is the only one not to have one. that's a message that he views this message as not including us. and he's right. jeff blake was really great and i wish other republicans, especially donald trump, would speak up again. >> maybe he'll tweet about the injustice she faces. >> and that's not the first republican you've said something nice about. you said something nice about me this past weekend. >> okay. get a room, guys. the trial that became a national obsession in the '90s.
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guilty of the murders of his ex-wife and her friend. after spending the last 8 1/2 years behind bars for another crime, armed robbery, he could be on the verge of being a free man. his parole hearing set for tomorrow. joining me now is the acclaimed filmmaker john singleton of the series "the people versus o.j. simpson." as well as boys in the hood. he's featured in cnn's new series the nineties. your new one? >> snowfall. >> let's talk about the people versus o.j. simpson, the ongoing and then the mini series. let's watch the clip and then we'll talk about it. >> we have 62 instances of simpson beating and stalking nicole. >> this is a murder case, not a domestic violence case. >> people do admire me. >> it's my hope we can treat each other with respect. >> i try to be respectful. >> i'm trying to win.
>> what to you think will happen tomorrow? what do you think should happen? >> they said he hadn't done anything in the nine years he's been there. he's been a model prisoner. ironically, he hasn't taken an extra ketchup or mail pack. that was an actual quote, something like that. i mean, hey, he's not doing anybody any harm, you know. >> can you believe the fascination around this still? >> it's drama. it's season opera. it's real season opera, you know. it is very fascinating. you think about where he started, and where he transformed himself to. and then what happened in the '90s. with the deaths of nicole. >> the thing about the nineties, you're part of this new series we have called "the nineties." there was a lot of racial tension around this, because rodney king happened around
this. i remember where i was for the o.j. sim ton trial. i remember black people and white people in the newsroom where i worked looking at each other like, what the heck is going on here. >> it was a powder keg. l.a. was like, it was interesting, because we were coming off two years, the riots had just happened. so half of l.a. was ironically tossed up for o.j. you wouldn't think black people would do anything for o.j. because we had given up on him. but that time was like, wait a minute, are they going to send this guy to the electric chair over this? because half the time was like, he did it, and the other half of the time is he didn't do it. >> you knew rodney king, right? >> i knew rodney, yes. >> and i did a long interview with him. and the series of the nineties is titled can we all get along. let's watch it and let's talk
about it. >> i remember the power of stepping out of the d.c. metro and seeing this sea of faces of color on the national mall. >> the million-man march was called for by louis faracan. >> the basic reason that this was called was for atonement. and reconciliation. >> he's always been a controversial figure because of his anti-semitic utterances. the march becomes bigger than louis faracan. >> we're trapped in second-class schools and first-class jails. >> we've been locked up. we've been brutalized. >> this became the first mass expression we could make together, that we need to be regarded, respected, and heal this racial breach. >> we aren't all drug dealers. we have a message. >> when you stand with your mothers, when you stick it out
with your families and start mentoring our young, then we can build a new nation of strong people. >> i had to get out of that whole kind of like time bomb mentality, growing up in l.a. gives you. i think the march gave me a sense of hope that things could get better. >> it's been great. >> what did you think? that moved you. >> i'm looking at this right now, and, you know, it's beautiful. and it's just so elegant. it's ironic that it was a recent part of our past. now thinking of contemporary times it's really sad. there's no solidarity like that amongst black men, or black people at all. >> not even with black lives matter? >> no, look what happened last year. they squashed that. it's not an ongoing thing. there's not an ongoing thing about the different injustices going on, all the different
things that even mr. jeff sessions is trying to roll back, you know, all the gains that happened in the last eight years. i believe that, you know, without -- it should be a methodical thing amongst people to really achieve their liberation, you know what i mean? and we're not asking for anything other than what all americans are afforded. >> in the moments we have left, tell me about snowfall on fx. >> it's a show set in 1983. it's in southcentral los angeles, east l.a., the west side. it's about how cocaine changed l.a. yes. >> crack epidemic. >> transcending from the cocaine to the crack epidemic. if we weren't trying to fight this covert war in central america, we wouldn't have the proliferation of crack in los angeles. we showed that in the show. >> i can't wait to see it. all your stuff is amazing. >> thank you very much. good to see you, man.
>> snowfall airs wednesday 10:00 p.m. on fx. and nineties right here on cnn. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching. i'll see you right back here tomorrow. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should've done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. switch and you could save $782 on home and auto insurance. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
i'm gonna just go back to doing what i was doing. find your awesome with the xfinity x1 voice remote. good evening. the "new york times" just published an interview with the president. what he said is enough to fill the entire broadcast tonight. we begin with shocking news about senator and former presidential candidate john mccain. dr. sanjay gupta joins us now. sanjay, what have you learned? >> with senator mccain's permission, i spoke to his doctors at the mayo clinic earlier today, and they said the operation he had on friday revealed that he has a glioblastoma, an aggressive type of brain cancer. that was what was causing his problems, omting above his left eye. this is the type of primary brain cancer. they didn't